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Censure killed the meaning of art by Gunsmithcat Censure killed the meaning of art by Gunsmithcat
All of you who report works from other people because are against your morality are just killing the sense of art
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:icond4ax:
D4aX Featured By Owner Edited Jan 8, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Je Suis Charlie!

Censure is allways evil…

"The whole principle is wrong; it's like demanding that grown men live on skim milk because the baby can't eat steak." – Robert Heinlein
[in: "The Man Who Sold the Moon"]


#JeSuisCharlie #SoyCharlie #IchBinCharlie #JestemCharlie #NousSommesCharlie #ЯЧарли #ЯЧарлі #SonoCharlie #EstouCharlie
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:iconlibrarian-of-hell:
librarian-of-hell Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I've been reported for a few things before...so yeah.
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:iconequusheart:
EquusHeart Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Amen!
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anonymous2443 Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2014  Student Artist
I see dozens of assholes and scumbags flagging the "vore" related flash work
You know, actual VORE art
Yet in the archives I see fucking retarded fanmade all caps PEWDIEPIE ILOVEEYOU flash crap as well as nazi gore crap.
IN the vore related archives. Yet that stuff still stands and no one ever seems to flag or report that. 
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cairnsbirds Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2014  Student Digital Artist
good sense
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:iconaoi-mew:
Aoi-Mew Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014   Digital Artist
Yo he sido victima tambien de unos trolls , de pacotilla , no tienen vida y se dedican a molestar a muchos usuarios que se han ido de deviantart , yo tengo dos cuentas cerradas por esos trolls , yo conozco el que reporta dibujos y es bastante molesto .No tiene otra cosa que hacer que fastidiar a los demas .Me han acosado dos años detras mia , y no paran de hacerlo
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:icongunsmithcat:
Gunsmithcat Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014
ya, yo tengo algunos seguidores que me siguen para ver que subo y denunciarlo, cada uno se dedica a lo que sabe :)
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:iconaoi-mew:
Aoi-Mew Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014   Digital Artist
Ya no sirve el help desk  :/ denuncias a alguien y no hacen caso
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Spike-the-Funkster Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2014  Student Filmographer
amen to that
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Gunsmithcat Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2014
:)
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LunaMiranda Featured By Owner May 21, 2014  Student General Artist
Hi! I've recently seen some of the work of your gallery and I really agree with you.

On the other hand (and please don't take this the wrong way) I believe there might be people concerned with the nudity and sexual content. To be honest I believe what you do in here is far from distasteful, let aside porn. You have great ways to approach many themes of our society, and because of that I understand the fact that placing a maturity filter may seem unnecessary to you and many people. But, then again, lets remember that DA community includes people from all ages, and countries around the world, so they might not understand that. So if someone reports your work keep in mind that. And well, you have two options here: either you could place the filter in your artwork more frequently (which seems to me a little extreme ...although I have to admit that if my younger self had stumble upon some of your work, I might have felt really uncomfortable. Though that's not the case anymore) or just don't take it personal (I know that's hard too) when someone reports one of your works. Remember there are parents out there concerned with what their little children may find in the internet, or people with different upbringings, etc. Again, I'm not saying your art is in any means wrong or inappropriate, but sadly many people do. I guess the perfect solution would be if the filters were established by the user, so they could avoid what they don't want to see, instead on placing them on the work itself, but anyways, we can't control everything.

On a more positive side, don't forget there is also a lot of people who admire and understand your art, myself included. Many artists, if not all, have dealt with some kind criticism through their lives; that is practically one inseparable quality of art, not everyone is going to like it. So again (sorry for being so repetitive), just don't take it personal and keep up the amazing work! And sorry for writing so much, I got carried away! 
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InfinityUnlimited Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
this is a BIG problem in the U.S.! people are too busy with religious morals and shit to care about someone elses beliefs, or the real issues in congress!
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DOWModder Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I don`t think the 'art' should care about censorship, if you draw something nasty\offending\dangerous\racistic\smutty or some other things that people find distasteful - it`s not art. Art should be easy to understand and admired by all - showing the bset of mankind and nature, not something most base (like nudity). This is what art is in my opinion.
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Twatcher Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2014
You mean, the artist who wants to show people his art shouldn't care about the actions that prevent him/her from doing that?
Although you are totally entitled to your opinion about what you like, I don't think you should put an equal sign between what you like and what art actually is.
And since there are "people" in the world who think differently on things, based on your definition I don't think you could find really many works of art in the world. And that would take out all the fun out of it anyway. How boring would it be if everyone were the same.
Gunsmithcat is really provocative, and is clearly passionate about sex too. And he combines the two and creates socially relevant messages that provoke and shock sometimes. And the main point is, it really communicates. And from the number of comments, to a lot of people too.
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:icongunsmithcat:
Gunsmithcat Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2014
If art don't disturb, it sucks (Salvador Dalí)
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DOWModder Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Inside the bounds of decency - by all means. )
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Shana4270 Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2014  Student
That description is just...
Yes
Just because others have a different sense of art it doesn't mean they have to be reported
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:icongunsmithcat:
Gunsmithcat Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2014
:)
right
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LordDarkstarr Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2014
Very much true, and thank you very much for making the point in the first place!

It's one thing to report postings that violate the rules (such as I've done on Facebook*), it's totally another to claim something is porn/hate speech/etc. simply because you don't like it.

*(And the pics I reported were ignored, despite showing nudity, which was against FB's rules. They censor freethinking/athiest/pagan groups simply because religious fanatics report them because they don't support the fanatics' dogma. This is one of MANY reasons why I left Facebook forever and will NEVER return!)
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:icongunsmithcat:
Gunsmithcat Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2014
fascism in the internet website rules, we don't leave adult people free to decide what they want to watch or not
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:iconlorddarkstarr:
LordDarkstarr Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2014
Of course not! Not when the self-appointed Guardians of Public Morality live in mortal fear of people having fun!

That's why I love one line from the CLAMP manga XXXHolic: "What's the harm in being yourself, if you're not hurting anyone by doing so? What's the benefit of following the crowd, if it makes you miserable?"
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Ekhi-Guinea Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2014
Muy bueno
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:icongunsmithcat:
Gunsmithcat Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2014
gracias!!
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OmarEdwards Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2014
Powerful
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:icongunsmithcat:
Gunsmithcat Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2014
thanks
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:iconwalwa:
Walwa Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2014  Professional General Artist
someone did this to my art
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:icongunsmithcat:
Gunsmithcat Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2014
sadly here many people are not for art
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Walwa Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2014  Professional General Artist

indeed

 

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cheshirecan Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2014
can't get enough of your artwork! cause mostly there is a message involved. great stuff!
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:icongunsmithcat:
Gunsmithcat Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2014
thanks!
it's good to know that)
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:iconmatthew-lane:
matthew-lane Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist

"All of you who report works from other people because are against your morality are just killing the sense of art"


No they aren't. Firstly people who report images that break the sites rules do not kill nay kind of artistic integrity... They don't stop you creating that artwork, they don't stop you displaying that art work, all it does it stops you from posting it here, on this specific web site.... Because this website is someone elses property, as are the paid for servers that keep it operational.


Its like if I walked into your home, shit on your carpet & rubbed it into your walls.... An then when you get pissed off I screamed "ARTISTIC CENSURE!" in your face.

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Gunsmithcat Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2014
well, this is not your home, this is not your carpet, and art is not shit

They make the rules and they use like they want, no matter if you broke it or not in your works, it happens to me and after arguing with the admins here they stop deleting my works here.

When you are against some kind of art you have the choice to watch it or not, when you decide to report and delete that you stole the possibility to watch or not for the rest of the people, because people like you use to think that your morality is the right one.

Rules are more important for you than freedom in art, then, you don't know what is the sense of art

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matthew-lane Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist

"well, this is not your home, this is not your carpet"

No, its also not your home & not your carpet... They do in fact belong to Deviantarts mother company.... She's just being nice enough to let you crash on the couch.

 "They make the rules and they use like they want, no matter if you broke it or not in your works, it happens to me and after arguing with the admins here they stop deleting my works here."

LOL, no they didn't. In fact I think you'll find at least one of your art pieces coming down any day now.

"When you are against some kind of art you have the choice to watch it or not, when you decide to report and delete that you stole the possibility to watch or not for the rest of the people, because people like you use to think that your morality is the right one."

Its got nothing to do with morality. If the rules changed today to include "all images that use the colour blue shall be removed" then that's what occurs. No one stole anything form you, you can either comply or move on to another server, or build your own server, or just pay real money to rent your own server space & get a real website, like a real artist does. Morality plays no role in it, as things don't get taken down on the basis of me not liking a thing, but instead on the basis that it breaks the objective rules that you signed a contract agreeing to comply with.

"Rules are more important for you than freedom in art, then, you don't know what is the sense of art"

The rules do not stop you in ANY way from creating what you want to create. They just stop you from posting things here that are against the rules. When one of your pieces gets taken down because it breaks those rules, DeviantART police officers do not come & kick in your front door, confiscate your art, your art supplies & break your fingers.  This is not a thing that happens: All that happens is that they say "in my house we have rules & those rules can be seen here, you break those rules & you don't get to continue to sleep on my couch rent free."

So stop this "I'm a victim of the mans censor" you really aren't. If you think what dA does is censorship, you have no idea what real censorship is.

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Gunsmithcat Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2014
sorry, this is too much long to read it, I have work and real life. I don't use to lose my time watching things that i don't like, but maybe you have more free time

You came here to lose your time with me, but it seems you don't agree about my topics, and maybe about my drawings neither. So, ask yourself WTF are you doing here speaking to me?
I don't need to know your morals as you can see in one of my last drawings. You are not going to change my thoughts and I'm not going to change yours, so...again, WTF are you doing speaking to me?

I had this conversation many times, with many people, and it's really boring

I don't need to change what you think about, the world is big for all of us, so good luck in your life

Now you can get the last word if you want
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matthew-lane Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist

"sorry, this is too much long to read it, I have work and real life. I don't use to lose my time watching things that i don't like, but maybe you have more free time"

Wow, that is such a cop out. Its okay that you just realised that you are wrong, but don't try to hide that under the pretence that you didn't read the reply. We both know you read every word of it, but now are stuck for a intelligent reply.

"So, ask yourself WTF are you doing here speaking to me?"

I thought that was obvious: I'm telling you that you are wrong. Educating the ignorant is always time well spent.

"You are not going to change my thoughts and I'm not going to change yours, so...again, WTF are you doing speaking to me?"

The difference being that I'm not going to change your thoughts because you are close minded & arrogant about your inability to learn, where as I'm not going to learn anything from you, as you have nothing to teach. This is why you've chosen to take this line of logic rather than an actual rebuttal.

"I had this conversation many times, with many people, and it's really boring"

It will be boring when you can't give a real reply & have to rely on repeating the same nonsense.

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:icongunsmithcat:
Gunsmithcat Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2014
".................."
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:iconalexis667:
alexis667 Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
Sorry this guy keeps showing up. Ignore him.
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matthew-lane Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah ignore him, he's a complete arsehole.
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:icongunsmithcat:
Gunsmithcat Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2014
:)
yes, I try
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HighHeelsArt Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2014
Great concept. Funny yet very scary if one lives in the wrong place
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:icongunsmithcat:
Gunsmithcat Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2014
yes, right :s
thanks!!
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leriko777 Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2014
Censure is the worst. I am an artist myself, I think I am not as gifted as many here on deviantart. Some art here is just breath taking. But my friends say my paintings are not worser or better than any here on deviantart, they ask me to upload it and show to other people. It's not that I am scared or anything, I draw them for myself and not for everyone. It's not like I am hiding my art in a grey box, I can't explain it, I don't want positive or negative feedback, I don't need likes or anything of that kind. I don't want Censure to even get in a room with my "children". Censure is a rapist and a pedophile. I feel rage
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matthew-lane Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist

"I am an artist myself"


*checks user gallery, finds it empty*


Sure you are an artist Leriko & I'm actually Superman.

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leriko777 Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2014
why should I add my paintings here? If such people like you watch and throw dirt at them. I feel great having them under my table, on my walls (actual walls not on facebook or here you internet addict) This account's only purpose is to comment sometimes when I really feel like it, and that's maybe once or twice in a half year. I am not like you, I ain't goin' out to take photos and pretend to be a master photographer like 13 year old girls. If you are trolling, hating or just want to argue with someone, then argue but not with me. I will not play your games.
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matthew-lane Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist

"If such people like you watch and throw dirt at them."

LOL, you need to have art before I can throw dirt at them.

"I feel great having them under my table, on my walls (actual walls not on facebook or here you internet addict)"

Yep because anyone who points out you objectively have no art in your account must be an internet addict. LOL, you pretend wannabe artists say the funniest shit.

LOL, fact is that you are not an artist, you are just playing at one.


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leriko777 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014
you are so pathetic. What can I say more? You are and will be pathetic. I visited your deviant page and I see what kind of guy you are. How do you know if I am an artist or not? Maybe I am the queen of England or maybe Obama. You are unimportant to me, your comments are unimportant, you will not drag me down to your level. You are low, you don't have friends, you think you have and maybe you do, but these "friends" of yours are as pathetic as you if they hang out with such a guy. Instead of clinging to me, live your life but nooo. I won't put up my pictures because you say so, I won't upload them even if god himself begs me to. Why should I? I am free NOT to upload them here on 'deviantart'. And you wannabe photographer? Go out and take pictures become better at what you do instead of shiting in the comments. If not the,. you are a troll and you are pathetic.
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matthew-lane Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
"you are so pathetic"

Are pathetic, i'll add that to the list of features possessed by people who point out you are objectively wrong.

"I visited your deviant page and I see what kind of guy you are."

An awesome one.... I know, we should all be so lucky. :)

"Maybe I am the queen of England or maybe Obama."

You are a black queen? Wow, that must be pretty interesting.... Alas you would still be a Black Queen who has no artwork, because he is not an artist.

"You are unimportant to me, your comments are unimportant, you will not drag me down to your level."

Yep, I'm totally unimportant.... Still won't make you an artist though. :)

"You are low, you don't have friends, you think you have and maybe you do, but these "friends" of yours are as pathetic as you if they hang out with such a guy."

Oh burn, that totally hurt my feelings... Nah I'm kidding, I actually find your impotent rage to be pretty amusing. You shout, you scream, you resort to attempts to enrage me, which is ironic because the idea that you would have to lower yourself to my level for this conversation: Right before jumping down into the mud and rolling around in it.

"Instead of clinging to me, live your life but nooo."

Hahahahahahahaha, sure I'm clinging to you.... In reality conversing with you twice took about 30 seconds, but okay, I'm totally clinging to you.

"I won't put up my pictures because you say so, I won't upload them even if god himself begs me to."

LOL, you have no pictures to upload. In fact your account has never had any listed art work in it.... Oh were you unaware that other people can look at your activity logs.

"And you wannabe photographer?"

I am totally a wannabe photographer, that's why I take photos.... Practice, practice, practice.

"Go out and take pictures become better at what you do instead of shiting in the comments."

I already am.... Making you look foolish is just a side amusement.
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leriko777 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014

you are so pathetic. I made a grave mistake by feeding a troll. You are pathetic and that is the only thing you need to know. Am I an artist or not is not important. Are you a retard or just some guy is not important. The only thing you should know is that you are pathetic. Maybe I am the first one to tell you this or you heard it before from people but change your attitude. In RL you'll get your face smacked or worse shot in the stomach and left to die in the forest like in some countries. Your opinion is not important. You are pathetic, remember that, tell your mother to reeducate you because she clearly failed. You are pathetic, worse than a worm. You think you have power and you mean something in this world but you are shit to everyone and to me. You are pathetic always remember that.

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manucatni Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013
i like ur IMAGE(nation)s
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